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Welcome to People in Insurance: Changing the Conversation Join us as we delve into the dynamic intersection of diversity, culture, and technological innovations within the insurance industry. Listen in as Host, Sarah Myerscough, Chief Ideas Officer at Macaii, sits down to talk with trailblazers, thought leaders, and innovators who are reshaping the very fabric of insurance. Here, we bring you stories that not only redefine the narrative but also offer a fresh perspective on the evolving landscape of insurance. From ground-breaking initiatives to transformative insights, we’re your trusted guide through the winds of change. Tune in to People in Insurance, brought to you by Macaii, and stay ahead of the curve in the ever-evolving world of insurance.
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Tuesday Apr 16, 2024
Tuesday Apr 16, 2024
Welcome to Changing the Conversation: The people in insurance.
The brand new, reimagined evolution of The Insurance Broker’s Podcast, brought to you by Macaii Ltd!
In light of the wide array of changes across insurance we have observed recently, we are shifting the direction of the podcast to speak to those in the industry who are doing things differently, having identified a sticking point which they hope to resist against.
This new iteration of the podcast is all about highlighting the people, the passion and the professionalism that drives our industry.
In today’s episode we are very pleased to be speaking with Ajay Mistry, Co-Founder of iCAN! Ajay is an expert in all things networking, and throughout the episode, he offers his advice for approaching industry events, and his insights for maximising your presence on LinkedIn.
Quote of the Episode
“Networking is all-encompassing… it's all about building relationships, and whether that's through stuff after work, whether that's in meetings, whether that's phone calls you're having with colleagues internally – there's so many different types of networking. One thing that's really fundamental is that things are changing; people are more accessible than they ever have been, because of social media and LinkedIn. There are more networks available than ever to join. So, if you’re ever lonely, there's a really quick way to find people.”
Networking has always been closely associated with insurance. It is an inherently people-facing industry. Now, through LinkedIn and other social media platforms, we have immediate access to the very people we could and should be forming promising connections with, There are more networks than ever to join. This can, in one respect, make the prospect of networking feel even more mountainous and daunting than before. On the other hand, digital networking can provide a less pressurised way to get to know a potential contact before meeting them in person. It grants a platform through which an initial layer of trust and connection can be established before that first meeting where it can more organically flourish.
Key Takeaways
For most of us, the prospect of networking is profoundly uncomfortable. It can often feel shrouded by a certain seediness; since there is a ‘business’ element underpinning each conversation you might have at a networking event; it can make the process feel inauthentic. Ajay suggests that it is always key to establish a personal connection first and foremost, and not to worry about the bottom line. A mutually beneficial connection can only ever emerge from any given conversation if both parties are genuinely interested in one another, and demonstrate this by actively listening to one another. If you find yourself lost about how to start a conversation at an event, for example, remember that everything is in context. Talk about the event, or a speaker you just heard from. This provides a springboard from which you can transition into a casual, personal conversation.
Ajay offers five top tips for networking, all of which can help you to forge more organic and authentic connections:
- What’s the worst that’s going to happen?
- The world is full of abundance, not scarcity – there will always be more opportunities to network
- If you don’t ask, you don’t get
- Have a plan – come to every event knowing what you want to get out of it
- You’re the product of your systems, not your intentions – if you want to network, put an event in your diary and go to it
Ajay is also an expert in using LinkedIn to effectively distribute your unique message. It provides an excellent form of passive communication, by distributing your message across the homepages of all your connections and empowering them with the choice of whether to engage with it or not. Consequently, regularly posting effectively does the networking for you, even when you’re not in the room. Using LinkedIn to talk about important topics relevant to the industry will clue your connections in to your status as a well-informed and motivated insurance professional.
During the episode, Ajay highlights employee resource groups as a great means of promoting networking within businesses. These are in-house, employee-led groups focused on a specific strand of diversity, be it ethnic minorities, the LGBTQIA+ community, young industry starters, and many more. You don’t have to belong to these groups to network with them, and they can both add an extra layer to one’s job, and facilitate good business in-house and in collaboration with another companies.
Best Moments/Key Quotes
“People feel there's a seediness or dirtiness that comes with the word ‘networking’, but actually, it's just about building relationships for a benefit to yourself or the other person at some point. If you go in with the mindset of ‘I want to help other people’, or ‘How can I give back?’, all of a sudden it changes from a seedy way of doing things to ‘I'm helping actually’ and therefore, ‘I'll give something give forwards and get something back’.”
“It's hard to quantify, but look at the people who have done very well in this industry. They've done it because of networking. The traditional ‘old boys’ networks, yes, they are antiquated in their viewpoints. However, they started for a reason; there's some good best practice there in terms of people have helped each other and now they’re helping each other later on. That cycle is very important. And the more people that get in that cycle, the more that people can move forward.”
“[With LinkedIn] you're giving people the choice of how they want to receive information, if they don't want to receive it, and they don't want to listen, that's their choice. By putting the power in their hands, it's very empowering for them, because they get to choose. When it comes to direct communication, it’s different. Because then you're forcing someone to make a decision.”
Resources
iCAN – Upcoming Events: https://www.i-can.me/events-2
iCAN - Coffee with the CEO: https://www.i-can.me/coffee-with-the-ceo
About the Guest
Ajay Mistry is the Co-Founder of the Insurance Cultural Awareness Network (iCAN), the Founder of Gambit Partners and a board member of the CII Broking Board.
Ajay Mistry: https://www.linkedin.com/in/1ajaymistry/
About the Host
Sarah Myerscough is the Chief Ideas Officer at Macaii, formerly Boston Tullis. She hosts/co-hosts several podcasts and is known for her knack in connecting with people. Sarah excels in bringing out the best for video, podcast, and live events, helping clients showcase the human side of their business.
Sarah is passionate about the evolving dynamics of the insurance industry and enjoys conversing with innovators, trailblazers, and long-term advocates of change.
Website: www.macaii.co.uk
Monday Dec 18, 2023
Monday Dec 18, 2023
In this episode we’re thrilled to be speaking with Stephanie Jonas, Chief Operating Officer at JonasRe! In conversation with Boston Tullis’ Sarah Myerscough, Stephanie articulates how developing a passion for the industry can lead to a highly fruitful and rewarding career. She explores the cultural shifts developing across the insurance world in the last few years, the changes she anticipates in the near future, and how we might reassess the way we market ourselves to prospective new industry entrants.
Quote of the Episode
“We're learning constantly. We're never good enough. We never know enough. We have to be lawyers, we have to be advisors, we have to be accountants, we have to be compliance officers. We run the gamut of people's large businesses, making them feel better about their assets and how they're going to be protected. So, we are one and everything to all … This is not a transaction, we're not purchasing clothing, we're not buying pallets of paper, we are literally dealing with people's livelihoods, and all their assets, and it becomes very ingrained in you, if that's how you choose to play it.”
Sarah notes that for many people, developing a passion for working in the insurance world is an unexpected phenomenon. Stephanie suggests that this unfolds due to the sheer multiplicity of tasks, roles, and opportunities on offer in insurance. In any given day, brokers and insurers alike must wear a variety of different hats, all with the same incentive of managing a given client’s risks and finding solutions tailored to their specific needs. It is this variability of an insurance career which could perhaps become the key means by which we market ourselves to the next generation of insurance professionals.
Key Takeaways
For Stephanie, an insurance career becomes exciting when it is no longer approached in transactional terms. Our industry is ultimately built upon the people we meet and the conversations we have; not all of which will be easy, but which are all underpinned by the goal of delivering solutions to clients and thereby protecting their livelihoods and assets. When broking is no longer approached purely as a monetary exchange, and instead as a trade of resources and knowledge, it is easy to become hugely passionate about what we do as an industry. Changing the conversation in this way may lead those external to our industry to re-evaluate their preconceived notions of what we do.
Stephanie argues that if she were to market our industry to a group of teenagers in a school, she would ask them to think about everything in their environment – what are the materials? how was it made? how is it maintained? – and to consider the worst-case scenario if something were to go wrong. The resulting answers are microcosmic of the problem-solving we do as an industry, often dealing with potentially millions of pounds and many people’s livelihoods. In highlighting the scale of our industry and its pervasiveness in all aspects of life, we can highlight the variety of the work that we do, which could be hugely inspiring to young people seeking an exciting and multifaceted career.
Reflecting on JonasRe’s work with various large global business across the past few years, Stephanie notes that companies are becoming increasingly concerned about removing risks from their balance sheets. Requests for new and different types of cover are becoming increasingly frequent. Hence, Stephanie argues that in the future, retailers will necessarily become more focused on managing risk than pursuing transactions. Insurers and brokers alike will need to become risk managers first and foremost, instead of taking a more general approach of accepting orders and flinging back a price.
For Stephanie, there is no reason not to quote a risk. If JonasRe isn’t equipped with knowledge of a capability, they will find someone who is. Consequently, the business is constantly branching out, exploring new fields of knowledge and avenues of market opportunity. There’s no reason to turn a risk down, and even if your quote is rejected, you will nonetheless have acquired new knowledge with which to approach future risks.
Stephanie would be thrilled to hear from anybody looking to increase their volume in Canada, namely underwriters or specialist brokers interested in building up their business in the Canadian market. Her contact details are linked below!
Best Moments/Key Quotes
“I think [an insurance career] is very, for lack of a better word, sexy. It's bigger than investment banking; there's lots of money passing through; the people we deal with have billions of dollars going through Lloyds every year in premiums. We deal with the top people in the world, the top companies as well. You don't have to be the biggest or the best, you just have to try the hardest and give your best. And you have to really love it.”
“I think there has to be a big change in people becoming risk managers first, instead of accepting orders, flinging them out into the world and bringing back a price. That's where I think the change is going to be and those who do it are going to be very successful, and those who don't, may just remain stagnant.”
“There really is no end to finding solutions, pricing, risk management risk allocation, there really just isn't. There's really never a reason to say no.”
‘We want to be the people that are going to give more [and] give better, bringing that capacity and that knowledge to our clients to take that weight off their shoulders, because that's what we're here for.’
Resources
JonasRe: https://www.jonasre.com/
About the Guest
Stephanie Jonas is the Chief Operating Officer of JonasRe, a wholesale brokerage based in Toronto, with a wide range of risk specialisms.
Stephanie’s LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephaniejonas1000/
About the Host
Sarah Myerscough is the Sales and Marketing Director of Boston Tullis Group. The founder of The Insurance Brokers Podcast, she brings a wealth of experience and a fresh perspective on communication in the insurance sector. Boston Tullis works with insurance professionals to build effective communication both internally and externally through podcasting, event reporting, videography, and internal communications facilitation.
Website: https://bostontullis.co.uk/
Evaluation Link: https://s.bostontullis.co.uk/s/podcastevaluation
Tuesday May 30, 2023
Tuesday May 30, 2023
How can brokers better advise clients with deficient cybersecurity architecture? What steps can we and our clients take to raise our cyber resilience and reduce the potential damage of an attack?
Businesses that haven’t suffered a cyberattack are in the minority, or alternatively, they simply haven’t discovered that it has happened yet. Infoprotect reports that 51% of businesses have suffered from a cyberattack or breach in the past year alone. In this episode of the Insurance Broker Podcast, returning guest Brad Fraser, CEO of Infoprotect, speaks about how we can improve the cybersecurity scaffolding that is so crucial for our data-centric industry, within our own businesses and those of our clients. In conversation with Boston Tullis’ Sarah Myerscough, he explains that while we are all potentially susceptible to a cyberattack, we need not cower in fear of this possibility. He outlines a straightforward and systematic approach for improving your cyber resilience, without deploying any of the jargon that often makes such advice inaccessible.
Quote of the Episode
“[Left of bang is] a term that was coined by the military, I think in the Iraq War. It's about being prepared and able to protect yourself before the attack happens. Be aware of your surroundings, have a situational awareness, and make sure that you've taken all the steps, because the last thing you want to happen is an attack to take place, and you're not prepared. Then you have to launch into a survival mode and scramble to get everything sorted out, and you suddenly realise, ‘I didn't do the basics. So, it's about situational awareness. When it comes to cyber, it's really around resilience… Just being resilient, and following the steps that can help you be resilient is so important.”
Much of the advice often distributed with regards to cybersecurity is retrospective, and only applicable after an attack has already taken place. Brad emphasises that to truly minimise the risk of such attacks, we must implement an array of systems and procedures by which they can be warded off. He offers a ten-step plan for building cyber resilience, also outlined in a blog on the Infoprotect website linked below, through which both small businesses and large enterprises can assess the state of their cybersecurity and implement measures for improving it. In doing so, you can ensure that your business and your clients can always remain ‘left of bang’ of any potential cyberattack.
Key Takeaways
When you’re putting out fires in your day-to-day work, it’s easy to overlook good procedures for maintaining healthy cybersecurity, and to allow any deficiencies within your digital infrastructure to go unchanged. Such nonchalance is exactly what cyber attackers aim to identify and exploit when targeting businesses.
Brad asserts that we must take a proactive approach to managing cybersecurity and building cyber resilience. He argues that this must begin with a comprehensive risk assessment of your digital infrastructure, thereby establishing a baseline from which your systems can become more resilient to attack.
Data has become the backbone of our industry, and therefore its secure storage and management is paramount. If our data is compromised in a cyberattack, the fallout will not simply be the loss of money and resources attributed to recovering it, but also the reputational damage of having insufficient cyber resilience. Brad argues that good data security is hinged upon several often underexamined areas of cyber resilience:
- Asset Management – how is your hardware and software infrastructure built to ensure that systems are impenetrable?
- Vulnerability Management – once you have cybersecurity software, are you keeping it up to date? What condition is it in?
- Identity & Access Management – who can access the various systems within your business?
Instilling cyber resilience is not about raising hysteria about the prospect of cyberattacks. Rather, once you’ve got a plan, you become prepared, and able to respond in the event of an incident. Cyberattacks should be assessed and planned for like any other tangible emergency. To facilitate this, it’s key to de-jargonise the conversations happening within this space, so that brokers and their clients alike are able to more easily comprehend the importance of cyber resilience measures, to prevent the worst from happening.
Infoprotect offer a cyber resilience package to help brokers with managing their clients’ cybersecurity. To find out more, visit their website linked below, or contact Brad, who is happy to help!
Best Moments/Key Quotes
“Who has got access to your data? And what do you do with it? Do you encrypt it? Do you keep it in a separate repository? Do you keep it offsite? Do you back it up? What do you do with your data? Your data is so important to your business, and if it is stolen and shared, that's the last thing you want to happen.”
“This is not putting fear into people. It's purely saying, ‘Just be ready for this’. It may or may never happen, and if it doesn't happen, well, that's good, isn't it? Who cares if it happens or not? Let's be ready for it. That's the most important thing.”
‘We need to make the internet and our whole way of communicating over the internet safer.’
“Unfortunately, there's a lot of people out there that are using fear. And they're using jargon and they're using buzzwords and they're saying, ‘You're always going to be in trouble.’ Follow the basics. Get your layers [of cyber resilience], go through those, and you're going to be much better off than people that haven't.”
Resources
Infoprotect – Cybersecurity: https://www.infoprotect.co.uk/cybersecurity/
Infoprotect – 10 Steps to Cyber Resilience: https://www.infoprotect.co.uk/blog/10-steps-to-cyber-resilience/
OpenText – What is Cyber Resilience?: https://blogs.opentext.com/cyber-resilience-definition/
About the Guest
Brad Fraser is the CEO of Infoprotect, an IT solution provider that designs complex technology solutions for clients. He specialises in Cyber Security and Data Backup as well as having a host of experience in security services and managed solutions.
Brad’s LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bradfraserentrepreneur
About the Host
Sarah Myerscough is the Sales and Marketing Director of Boston Tullis Group. The founder of The Insurance Brokers Podcast, she brings a wealth of experience and a fresh perspective on communication in the insurance sector. Boston Tullis works with insurance professionals to build effective communication both internally and externally through podcasting, event reporting, videography, and internal communications facilitation.
Website: https://bostontullis.co.uk/
Evaluation Link: https://s.bostontullis.co.uk/s/podcastevaluation
Tuesday May 23, 2023
Tuesday May 23, 2023
How can LinkedIn be used for reaching your target demographic?
What kind of marketing content is most likely to facilitate a return on investment, and how can this be calculated?
In this episode, we’re excited to be speaking with Catherine France, an insurance copywriter who specialises in using LinkedIn to help attract and convert clients. In conversation with Boston Tullis’ Sarah Myerscough, she illustrates how you can target LinkedIn content to your intended demographic, and explains the steps you need to take in order to project a trustworthy and reliable brand presence.
Quote of the Episode
“In terms of sales vs non-sales content, when I'm talking to my clients, and we're building their profile on LinkedIn, we are very much focused on educating, informing, giving value, as opposed to selling. It's probably like the 80-20 rule: 80% of the content we put out is information, and then 20% might be information with a call to action, that's more sales.”
It’s easy to assume that the best way to garner sales through your marketing content on LinkedIn is to directly promote the services and products you offer. However, this is more likely to alienate than entice your ideal client, particularly if they have little to no knowledge of the insurance industry. Catherine suggests that a great way to subtly market your business whilst simultaneously capturing the interest of potential clients is to post educational and informative content, perhaps explaining different kinds of policy or common insurance misconceptions. Prior to doing so, you should establish who your ideal client is, and what challenges they might be facing that you can assist with. How much do they know about insurance? Subsequently, you can target your marketing content towards such individuals.
Key Takeaways
With 875 million people on LinkedIn, all of whom need insurance, the service provides a huge wealth of potential clients that you can attract to your brand. We live in the age of content, and quality posts on your LinkedIn page can be hugely beneficial in capturing the interest of potential clients. However, before you start posting, there are other considerations you should make which will help your content to reach the right demographic.
When it comes to social media marketing, the focus is often always on your content and the engagement it receives, but potential clients’ reception of your posts is often entirely contingent on the initial impression made by your profile. If someone sees your post, the next thing they will likely do is to view your profile, to garner a sense of your legitimacy and trustworthiness as a brand. To optimise this, you should ensure that your contact information is clearly visible. Additionally, you should enable creator mode in order to add a link to your business’ website onto your profile. The ‘Summary’ section effectively serves as your business’ digital shopfront. In 3000 characters, you must explain what you do, who you help, and how. Being overly general in this description can be potentially confusing or alienating; thus, it must contain specific details tailored to capturing the interests of your specific ideal client.
Having optimised your profile, you must also examine your LinkedIn network. Most insurance professionals’ network will be full of insurance professionals. To change this, use search filters to find people in the particular business sectors you would like to connect with. Connect with as many people as possible, but avoid sending them private messages – this is likely to deter them from your brand. Make those connections, and allow those people to view your profile and determine whether they would like to correspond with you or not. This further emphasises the importance of having a well-curated and informative profile.
Subsequently, you can begin to contemplate the type of content you should post. As previously mentioned, deploying educative content, by using simple language and relatable stories from a non-insurance perspective, can be highly lucrative in drawing people to your brand. This enhances your reputation as delivering valuable knowledge. Furthermore, posting a diverse range of content is key. Behind-the-scenes posts shared by company staff often receive the most engagement, as they emphasise the faces behind your brand, thereby humanising the business and further amplifying its trustworthiness.
How do you identify a return on investment with marketing? Post likes and shares can be misleading, as they don’t necessarily correspond with new sales. Catherine argues that the key metric with LinkedIn marketing is profile views, either on personal or company pages. If posts lead to profile views, this means that they are drawing people to potentially want to reach out and ask for help or further information. To facilitate this, posting consistently quality posts covering a diverse range of topics, whilst also targeting your ideal client is essential.
Best Moments/Key Quotes
“The profile really is like having another webpage. If you haven't got a website, then you can use it like a website. Make sure that you've got a banner image, a decent headshot photo, that your headline is clear, saying what you do and who you help.”
“Think about your ideal client, you know, who are they? What are their challenges, what's keeping them awake at night? Then, talk to those people.”
“I think the key metric for a personal page, and probably a company page as well, is that profile view. It's actually who's gone on there and viewed your profile.”
Resources
Catherine France - https://www.catherinefrance.com/
About the Guest
Catherine France is an insurance copywriter, who helps insurance executives create consistent quality content to help them attract and convert their dream clients. This ranges from writing blog posts to social media captions, helping them build their website, and more.
Catherine’s LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/catherine-france/
About the Host
Sarah Myerscough is the Sales and Marketing Director of Boston Tullis Group. The founder of The Insurance Brokers Podcast, she brings a wealth of experience and a fresh perspective on communication in the insurance sector. Boston Tullis works with insurance professionals to build effective communication both internally and externally through podcasting, event reporting, videography, and internal communications facilitation.
Website: https://bostontullis.co.uk/
Evaluation Link: https://s.bostontullis.co.uk/s/podcastevaluation
Tuesday May 16, 2023
Tuesday May 16, 2023
Are you keen for your business to remain aligned with the latest innovations across the industry? Would you like to learn more about how new digital processes and platforms can energise and streamline your productive output?
In this episode of the Insurance Broker Podcast, we are very pleased to be speaking with Merlin Beyts, Head of Content at ITC DIA Europe! In conversation with Boston Tullis’ Sarah Myerscough, he explains what attendees can expect at the business’ exciting upcoming event at the Fira Gran Via in Barcelona, from 27th to 29th June! Uniting leading experts from across the industry, and giving a voice to professionals from adjacent industries, the event intends to further propel the future of insurance, facilitating discussion between insurers, brokers and Insurtech innovators.
Quote of the Episode
“What I've noticed working in events… is you sometimes can fall into the trap of having the same conversations about the same things, and you really do need those innovators to sometimes say something that's perhaps controversial, say something that perhaps people don't necessarily want to hear. It's always great to have those innovative opinions so that we can really drive things forward.”
The ITC DIA Europe event intends to provide a springboard for innovation, by hosting speakers who will push boundaries and encourage introspection for attending businesses, to evaluate how they can embrace new technology and form partnerships with which to stride confidently into the future. With so much change constantly rattling the industry, precipitated by the necessitated transformations during the COVID pandemic, it is through embracing change and constant innovation that insurers and brokers alike can continue to thrive throughout the unforeseeable.
Key Takeaways
The ITC DIA Event intends to promote widespread innovation across the industry, by uniting Insurtech creators alongside traditional brokers and insurers under one roof. There are many businesses out there who can help the traditional insurance industry to drive innovation, and the event aims to facilitate discussions and promote collaboration between the old and the new.
This is reflected in the structural hybridity of the conference, combining a traditional approach whereby everyone can move around and meet different exhibitors, alongside a ‘festival feel’ whereby people can sit down, relax, and have meaningful conversations and create powerful connections. Through this approach, the event aims to enable both Insurtech innovators and insurers and brokers to achieve their business goals, attaining the confidence to incorporate new digital practices.
Merlin notes that some brokers have expressed a reluctance towards adopting new digital tools, perhaps for fear that it may eventually lead to certain areas of traditional broking becoming obsolete in the face of startlingly adaptable artificial intelligence. Yet, he argues that truly successful businesses will be those that embrace change.
The ultimate focus of the event is the future of our industry. Where will insurance be in a few years’ time, and what changes does your business need to make to remain in the running? To book your ticket, visit the registration page on ICT DIA’s website, linked below!
Best Moments/Key Quotes
“One of the big things that we are incredibly keen to make sure is on the agenda is just how many enablers there are out there who can help the insurance industry really drive innovation. That's the whole goal of everything that we do, whether it's an event, whether it's a webinar, is to is to push the industry forward.”
“If you're an insurance provider looking to looking to accelerate your innovation, looking to automate your underwriting processes, improve your claims experience, we've got all of those people that can help you do that. Similarly, if you are looking to engage with those people from a tech provider side, or even from an MGA standpoint looking to partner up with carriers who have a large customer base, we're going to have a lot of those people in the room as well.”
“There's a quote that I read from Andrew Horton, when he was CEO of Beazley and is now the Group CEO of QBE Insurance. [He] said, essentially, change is inevitable, and the truly successful people are going to be the ones that embrace change. I think, hopefully, we're going to see more adoption of digitization at the broker side of things.”
“The key word is innovation. But what we want to make sure we're doing is taking innovation, which is a very broad term, and actually put that into action. How do you get better? How do you actually improve your customer experience?”
Resources
Register to attend ICT DIA Europe in June: https://www.digitalinsuranceagenda.com/events/itcdia-europe/registration-itc-dia-europe/
About the Guest
Merlin Beyts is the Head of Content at ITC DIA Europe. In this role, he oversees the business’ digital content, including articles, interviews, and webinars.
Merlin’s LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/merlin-beyts-652ab0168/
About the Host
Sarah Myerscough is the Sales and Marketing Director of Boston Tullis Group. The founder of The Insurance Brokers Podcast, she brings a wealth of experience and a fresh perspective on communication in the insurance sector. Boston Tullis works with insurance professionals to build effective communication both internally and externally through podcasting, event reporting, videography, and internal communications facilitation.
Website: https://bostontullis.co.uk/
Evaluation Link: https://s.bostontullis.co.uk/s/podcastevaluation
Tuesday May 09, 2023
Tuesday May 09, 2023
Why is it so important to set Net Zero targets on an individual business level? Is there anything regional or provincial brokerages can do to help curb the impact of climate change?
In this episode of the Insurance Broker Podcast, we’re thrilled to be speaking with returning guest Adrian Saunders, Commercial Director of Ecclesiastical Insurance. Ecclesiastical recently conducted a survey investigating brokers’ attitudes to Net Zero target setting and carbon emissions reduction, which has yielded some slightly disappointing, but not entirely surprising results. In conversation with Boston Tullis’ Sarah Myerscough, Adrian shares the highlights from the survey, and emphasises the imperative of raising climate awareness across the insurance industry, and providing greater resources and information for small businesses looking to make a difference.
Quote of the Episode
“We need to have a shared responsibility, across business, across society… and recognise and accept that responsibility and do something. Surely we're all better for doing something than saying, ‘That’s too difficult, I can't do anything.’”
National brokerages are leading the charge with regards to setting Net Zero targets and announcing climate-conscious commitments. It’s all too easy for smaller businesses to say that there’s nothing they can really do to help deter climate change, as any impact they might have would be negligible or insignificant in the broader scheme of things. Yet, it is only through an acceptance of a collective social responsibility, at every level of industry and society, to cutting carbon emissions and cultivating new, climate conscious ways to conduct our lives and business, that any substantial change can be made, and this crisis can be avoided. No business is too small to set Net Zero targets.
Key Takeaways
In the year since Ecclesiastical’s last climate awareness survey, understanding that Net Zero is a good thing has grown by 40%. Alongside this, 39% of brokers nationwide have established targets for becoming Net Zero. Yet, the growth in brokers setting these targets over the last year has been marginal, and the part of the market that seems to be lagging is regional and provincial brokers. Only 10% of regional brokers, and only 4% of provincial brokers, have set Net Zero targets.
Perhaps of even greater concern is that only 12% of all respondents to this year’s survey think it’s important to their clients that they have a carbon Net Zero mindset, with no change in this attitude from last year. This is contradicted by the fact that nearly three quarters of brokers have affirmed the importance of climate consciousness. Furthermore, all businesses are increasingly interested in the ethical stance of those whom they are trading and cooperating with.
What can we do as brokers to reduce our emissions and become Net Zero? How do we get started? For Adrian, in every facet of a business, you will probably be able to identify a change you could consciously make to become more climate responsible, such as introducing hybrid meetings to reduce travel emissions. Before we implement these changes, we first need to build a climate-conscious environment within our businesses. This must begin with a strong level of understanding about climate change, accompanied by a narrative about what you will do as a business to combat it. We must identify our carbon footprint, both on a business level and an individual level, and the opportunities we have to make a change.
Understanding how we can combat climate change is at the very essence of what we do as an industry. Insurance is all about managing risk, and the prospect of climate catastrophe is the biggest risk we all face today. Ecclesiastical have curated several great resources regarding how brokers can become more climate responsible, including a series of webinars linked in the Resources section below.
Best Moments/Key Quotes
“What our research shows is that national brokers, therefore bigger brokers with access to more resources have got, got targets and a greater level of awareness. As you come down the scale of size of broking businesses, there is less awareness and target setting. Maybe there is an element of, ‘We're too small for this to be important. We're too small to make a contribution.’ And I think what I would say to that is, ‘Nobody is too small.’”
“I think brokers have got a huge role to play. You know, brokers are skilled and trusted advisors. That's what brokers do for their living. They've got the trust of clients, they understand what client's needs are, and they understand what their challenges are. So, by modelling some of this behaviour, I think brokers have got a really, really key role to play in, in business at large.”
“What are those practical actions towards Net Zero? It's about creating that environment. Understanding what your impact is, equally understanding the opportunity, and doing something.”
Resources
Ecclesiastical – Practical actions to reduce your company’s carbon footprint: https://www.ecclesiastical.com/brokers/training/practical-actions-net-zero/
About the Guest
Adrian Saunders is the Commercial Director of Ecclesiastical Insurance. He’s worked in both the company and broker markets, and specialises in developing new enterprises within organisations, and re-engineering existing processes to develop strategy and increase ROL.
About the Host
Sarah Myerscough is the Sales and Marketing Director of Boston Tullis Group. The founder of The Insurance Brokers Podcast, she brings a wealth of experience and a fresh perspective on communication in the insurance sector. Boston Tullis works with insurance professionals to build effective communication both internally and externally through podcasting, event reporting, videography, and internal communications facilitation.
Website: https://bostontullis.co.uk/
Evaluation Link: https://s.bostontullis.co.uk/s/podcastevaluation
Tuesday May 02, 2023
Tuesday May 02, 2023
How can small brokers navigate the various and insistent industry pressures that have emerged in recent years? Is it possible to sustain a client-first bottom line whilst also incorporating new digital data processing practices and becoming increasingly reliant on remote customer interactions?
In this episode of the Insurance Broker Podcast, we’re very pleased to be speaking with Alistair Body, Business Development Director at Momentum Broker Solutions. In conversation with Boston Tullis’ Sarah Myerscough, he discusses the numerous pressures facing small and independent brokerages, including consolidation, the shift to digitalisation, and regulatory red tape. He emphasises the importance of retaining focus on the primary goal of effectively advising clients, and explains how firms like Momentum can help to support brokerages struggling to remain afloat amidst all these aforementioned challenges.
Quote of the Episode
“The insurance industry has always been a people business. So, let's try and free up more time for [brokers] to do just that. The momentum proposition is about effectively creating an infrastructure in an environment where you've someone's got your back, whether it be your client’s money, their insurer relationships credit control, marketing, and so on. And just taking all that away from you. And just going back to the bare basics of letting you do what you do [best]: looking after your clients.”
Given the rapidity of change in the industry in recent years, it’s become easy to lose sight of our primary aim as brokers: to advise and support our clients through genuine interactions. While this has been complicated due to the shift to remote conversations as a result of the pandemic, these interactions remain our raison d’être. Thus, the opportunity for small brokerages to consign some of the challenging behind-the-scenes processes that enable fruitful client relationships to supportive businesses like Momentum is certainly worth considering.
Key Takeaways
Beyond the broader everyday challenges that have accompanied the past few years, this period has also brought considerable changes to how brokers conduct their business. This whirlwind of rapid change includes vast market consolidation, the increasingly urgent importance of carbon emissions reduction, and additional regulatory constraints. These, alongside the fundamental service challenges wrought by the shift to digitalisation and the emergence of new, highly efficient data processing software, have placed enormous pressure on small, independent brokerages. What is the solution to this, other than selling up and getting out of the industry altogether?
Alistair suggests that, first and foremost, we must return to the basics, and remember what our primary function as brokers is: to look after clients. Yet, our increasing industry reliance on data arguably conflicts with the desire to be a people-centred business. Is it possible to work in accordance with the data, whilst also fulfilling the needs of clients on an individualised, personal level? For Alistair, there is always a need to drive towards greater efficiency, in insurance and every industry. However, not all clients fit in the boxes that data-processing software may create. We must therefore remain flexible and versatile, finding ways to write risks that may not necessarily be ideal.
Another key issue is the ever-expanding red tape of compliance. Regulatory demands are often one-size-fits-all, and fail to account for the specific needs of small or niche brokerages. This is where firms like Momentum can lend a hand. Momentum specialises in supporting small and independent brokers to persevere through issues surrounding compliance, and the various other industry pressures that have emerged in the past few years, including the mounting necessity of carbon emissions reduction, profound economic turbulence, and changes in client behaviour.
Momentum will be at stand G20 at this year’s BIBA conference. To find out more about how they can support your business, find them and have a chat!
Best Moments/Key Quotes
“When you look at what's been thrust upon independent small businesses these days, you've got additional compliance concerns, you've got more talk around equality and diversity, we've got the DSG, we've got net zero, it just keeps going on and on and on. I think for a lot of these businesses, they simply don't have the internal resource or the internal knowhow to manage these things.”
“It's about looking after clients. It's about supporting them and their businesses or their personal insurance requirements, and giving them the advice and seeing the value that they created. I think it's just really going back to basics and focusing on what they're good at, and then ultimately using the services of Momentum or others to provide them the support [that will] allow them to get on with it.”
“Pre-pandemic, we would probably have a lot of brokers considering the move to direct authorization. Whereas it seems very much now that it's the other way around.”
Resources
Momentum - https://momentumsolutions.co.uk/
About the Guest
Alistair Body is the Business Development Director at Momentum Broker Solutions. Momentum provides support to small, independent and startup brokerages, helping them to grow and thrive.
Alistair’s LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alistair-body/
About the Host
Sarah Myerscough is the Sales and Marketing Director of Boston Tullis Group. The founder of The Insurance Brokers Podcast, she brings a wealth of experience and a fresh perspective on communication in the insurance sector. Boston Tullis works with insurance professionals to build effective communication both internally and externally through podcasting, event reporting, videography, and internal communications facilitation.
Website: https://bostontullis.co.uk/
Evaluation Link: https://s.bostontullis.co.uk/s/podcastevaluation
Tuesday Apr 25, 2023
Tuesday Apr 25, 2023
Have you identified any inefficiencies in your business’ software which delay brokers’ dealings with clients?
What features would you like to see incorporated into broking Insurtech software?
In this episode of the Insurance Broker Podcast, we’re very pleased to be speaking with Nick Jordan, Managing Director of Nuworks Ltd, an Insurtech business providing new digital solutions for the industry. In conversation with Boston Tullis’ Sarah Myerscough, Nick discusses the company’s new software, BrokerCentral, a bespoke platform which aims to streamline the broking experience and thereby facilitate more impactful broker-client interactions. He explains the origins of the software, its various features and how Nuworks hopes to develop it further in years to come.
Quote of the Episode
“Software is there to serve you, you're not there to serve the software. Most software in our industry seems to have this thing where if you want things to work in the way you want it to work, then you have to jump through a lot of hoops, you have to kind of really dig deep into the system, or you have to pay a lot of money to have that functionality provided. With BrokerCentral… we’ve got a really strong focus on customer experience and user interface design, to make it really easy, so that we don't have to give loads of training.”
Much of the software used in the broking sphere today was designed by software developers with little or no understanding of the needs and desires of brokers. As such, many of these platforms are difficult to navigate, with complex interfaces that require a considerable amount of training to master, and with various inefficient design features that ultimately slow down the user experience. The software your business uses must be more of a help than a hindrance to your brokers.
Key Takeaways
BrokerCentral has been built over the course of a decade, with a considerable amount of feedback from various guinea pig businesses to test its effectiveness. The platform ultimately aims to smoothen communication and the transmission of information between insurers and brokers. Thus, BrokerCentral enables you to work more efficiently, and to prioritise finding the best coverage for your customers.
Furthermore, we are now in the age of data. Thus, data accessibility and functionality are crucial to a streamlined insurance service. BrokerCentral locates and logs readily available client data on the behalf of brokers, saving them time by considerably reducing the need for manual data entry.
Nick notes that, unlike other Insurtech products already on the market, BrokerCentral will never be ‘finished’ in a traditional sense. It will always continue to be developed, incorporating feature requests, helping to further smoothen brokers’ journey with their clients. Nuworks seeks to constantly push for further innovation, and therefore the software is not a one-time product but a continually improving service.
He states that the three main benefits of using BrokerCentral are:
- It allows your team to do more in less time
- It provides a user experience that you can enjoy rather than endure
- It enables you to do more for your own customers, instead of being bogged down with manual data entry
If you’re in any doubt, check out the demo linked in the resources below! You can also have a chat with Nick who will be exhibiting BrokerCentral at Stand G31 at this year’s BIBA conference on 11th May!
Nuworks is also providing an offer for any prospective clients at the BIBA conference and listeners of this show! While the company would normally charge a £1000 onboarding fee for the BrokerCentral service to cover the cost of building documents, this will not be charged at all for listeners or BIBA attendees who get in touch.
Best Moments/Key Quotes
“The whole point of BrokerCentral is to is to make it easy for brokers to do their work more efficiently, so that they can free their time up to do the customer service side of things and focus their attention on the things that they're really good at, which is keeping customers engaged and finding really good coverage for them.”
“We basically only ever present a list of questions that are relevant to the insurance that you've selected, and the kind of risk that you've inputted into the system. From that point, if you go to a portal, because all that information is now stored, you can just press a button, and it will just go down each field. And if it knows the information, if it sees a match, it will just enter it for you.”
“’What would probably take a half an hour to an hour before for a more complex risk now takes less than five minutes.”
Resources
Nuworks: https://www.nuworks.com/
BrokerCentral by Nuworks: https://www.nuworks.com/brokercentral
About the Guest
Nick Jordan is the Managing Director of Nuworks, an Insurtech business seeking to identify and facilitate ways of working in the insurance industry. With 10 years’ experience in and around the industry, he is an expert in digital solutions for brokers and insurers.
Nick’s LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nick-j-jordan/
About the Host
Sarah Myerscough is the Sales and Marketing Director of Boston Tullis Group. The founder of The Insurance Brokers Podcast, she brings a wealth of experience and a fresh perspective on communication in the insurance sector. Boston Tullis works with insurance professionals to build effective communication both internally and externally through podcasting, event reporting, videography, and internal communications facilitation.
Website: https://bostontullis.co.uk/
Evaluation Link: https://s.bostontullis.co.uk/s/podcastevaluation
Tuesday Apr 11, 2023
Tuesday Apr 11, 2023
Is an over reliance on analytical and logical thinking stifling innovation in insurance? How can we help clients become more emotionally invested in the insurance they purchase, and why should we?
Welcome to the 100th episode of the Insurance Broker Podcast, and the first to be recorded live! This week, we are celebrating this milestone by tackling some big questions with three titans of the industry – Sam White, Peter Blanc, and Steve White! In conversation with Boston Tullis’ Sarah Myerscough, they discuss the dichotomy of ‘left brain’ (analytical, logical) and ‘right brain’ (creative, emotional) thinking. Bemoaning the industry’s general reliance on the former, they highlight the need for emotionally driven engagement with customer needs for insurers and brokers alike to truly innovate. Touching on all the major problems facing the industry today, including new regulatory pressures, the cost-of-living crisis, and recruitment difficulties, each of the guests emphasise how tapping into emotionally driven thinking can provide an alternative perspective from which to understand and tackle these issues.
Quote of the Episode
“Fundamentally, people don't care about insurance. And that's our fault. If we can't get people emotionally invested in what we're doing, then they do just think, [‘I’ll buy] whatever is cheaper’… Somebody will buy a life insurance policy online, just as a kind of, ‘I’d better grab that’. We need to learn how to evolve the product so that we can really get people to understand what they're buying in a digital world, as well as face to face.”
For many people not well-versed in industry jargon and technicalities, an insurance policy is often considered an grudge purchase. Despite the fact that policies are taken to protect their lives and livelihoods if disaster were to strike, there is often an emotional disconnect between the purchasing of a life insurance policy, for example, and an in-depth consideration of the reasons why one needs it. This is becoming increasingly challenging due to the digitisation of the insurance market, by which face-to-face discussions between clients and insurers are becoming eclipsed by the ease of doing it all online. Sam White argues that the insurance industry as a whole needs to improve its external communication in this regard, in order to crystallise in a prospective client’s mind, the potential consequences of taking out a lacking insurance policy, be it for their business, their car, or their life.
Key Takeaways
Increasing the educative role of insurers and brokers could be instrumental to curbing the public’s general disinterest in their insurance policies, and indeed, to reorienting the industry’s reputation in their minds. Communicating with customers on an emotional, rather than purely statistical level could be hugely beneficial to broadening the general understanding of what insurance is and why people need it, which people are often falsely assumed to automatically understand upon becoming adults despite being minimally, if at all, addressed during school education.
Additionally, a greater emphasis on the emotional, human element of insurance could help with the industry’s floundering recruitment efforts. Sam White suggests that emphasising the practicalities of insurance will quickly lose the interest of potential candidates. Alternatively, highlighting the ideology of insurance may be a great way to capture and retain their interest.
Peter Blanc asserts that there should be a moral overlay upon everything we do in insurance, which should assist in the navigation of when to deploy ‘left brain’ or ‘right brain’ thinking. As a result of the cost-of-living crisis, many people are looking to cut expenses wherever they can. In attending to this crisis, there needs to be a balance in both logical and emotional thought. There needs to be a balance in attending to this crisis. A customer’s primary concern may be cost, and using right brain/emotional thinking we may be driven to provide them with a cheaper policy. However, we must also use logical thinking – what will ultimately save the client money long term? If they need to make a claim, will this cheaper policy actually provide the help they need? Peter suggests that ‘we should fundamentally be providing products that enable people to go about their lives without undue risks’.
Best Moments/Key Quotes
“People work for organisations that they want to work for, and that they enjoy being part of. Our job as leaders, I think, has changed enormously over the last few years. It's all about creating an environment where people want to work for us. Employers had the power 10 years ago. I'd say employees have the power now. And that's a much nicer place to be.”
“It's a problem that we haven't quite managed to deal with yet, actually how to communicate to customers in a way that they want to be communicated with. We still just inundate customers with utter nonsense: the renewal invites, the PDF documents with 80 pages that no one is ever going to read. And that's our standard mode of communication with customers, which I think is appalling and needs to change.”
“The big change will be that I think the regulator will expect us to deliver products that are going to work… We have to be talking to our customers truly understand what they need, and then make sure we're doing our job, so that when something does go wrong, they are looked after.”
Resources
The BIBA Pod: https://thebibaconference.org.uk/feed/podcast/
BIBA - BIBA Homepage - British Insurance Brokers' Association
Howden Group - Howden Broking Group - Global Website (howdengroup.com)
Stella Insurance AU - Stella Insurance - Insurance Provider for women in Australia
Stella Insurance UK - Home - Stella Insurance (withstella.co.uk)
Human Business with Sam White: https://www.spreaker.com/show/human-business
About the Guest
Sam White is the Founder and CEO of Stella Insurance, which launched in Australia in 2020 and launched in the UK in November 2022. A pioneer in the insurance industry, Sam is also host of the Human Business Podcast.
Sam’s LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sam-white-093b9b22/
Steve White is the CEO of the British Insurance Brokers Association (BIBA), with an extensive career in the insurance industry. He previously worked for Norwich Union, followed by a 21-year stint at Orion Insurance Company, a few years with the General Insurance Standards Council, and subsequently, the Financial Services Authority.
Steve’s LinkedIn Profile: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/steve-white-437107a
Peter Blanc is the Exec Chair for Howden UK and Ireland, and the CEO of Aston Lark. He founded Aston Lark by merging Aston Scott Group with Lark Group in 2017. The business has completed 56 acquisitions since then, and Peter subsequently sold the business to Howden. Aston Lark now leads the M&A drive for Howden.
Peter’s LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/peter-blanc-0402961a/
About the Host
Sarah Myerscough is the Sales and Marketing Director of Boston Tullis Group. The founder of The Insurance Brokers Podcast, she brings a wealth of experience and a fresh perspective on communication in the insurance sector. Boston Tullis works with insurance professionals to build effective communication both internally and externally through podcasting, event reporting, videography, and internal communications facilitation.
Website: https://bostontullis.co.uk/
Evaluation Link: https://s.bostontullis.co.uk/s/podcastevaluation
Tuesday Mar 28, 2023
Tuesday Mar 28, 2023
Are your staff all on the same page about your broader business strategy? How do you communicate this on both an individual and a collective basis? How can alterations to your comms process fructify recruitment?
In this episode of the Insurance Broker Podcast, we’re thrilled to be speaking with Phil Kelly, Managing Director of Pro Noctis Group. In the episode, Phil outlines the crucial importance of retaining ‘alignment’ within your business, by ensuring that your various teams and individuals are always aware of and actively contributing towards your company’s strategy. In conversation with Boston Tullis’ Sarah Myerscough, he emphasises that good communication is crucial to the alignment process, and notes that technology can be beneficial in this regard, but only if a channel suitable for your business is utilised.
Quote of the Episode
“The world's forever changing, and I think the way we embrace and engage our people really does pay dividends, if we can align it to what we're trying to achieve and communicate that effectively. More often than not, I think the people within an organisation are an afterthought, it's more ‘strategy first, and then they'll play catch up’. But actually, the biggest challenge to delivering progress or growth [is engaging staff], as part of the decision-making process.”
An organisation only functions through the work of the individuals within it. For Phil Kelly, it is crucial for the people at all levels of a business to be both well-informed about and involved in its decision-making. If you only treat the employees within your business as functionaries facilitating a broader strategy, they will only perform their roles as such. Alternatively, if you can engage your staff with consistent and encouraging internal messaging, repeatedly emphasising your broader goals, they will be more willing to roll up their sleeves when the business inevitably hits bumps in the road. People derive fulfilment and satisfaction from understanding how their contributions are facilitating the mechanism of the business, and focused messaging in this regard will pay dividends in both productivity and staff retention.
Key Takeaways
This form of engaging staff communication will also help with recruitment, a key issue currently facing the insurance industry. Contrary to common misconceptions about Generation Z, young people want to work, but they also want clarity about the nature of their prospective employers – who are you as an organisation? What are you trying to achieve? By communicating this, you can demonstrate to prospective employees what their goals would be, and the broader strategy they would be contributing to, which are key factors by which young people navigate the recruitment process.
Throughout this episode, Phil repeatedly returns to the term ‘alignment’, to articulate how easy it is for various teams to be functioning on splintered or even contradictory conceptions of their business’ overall strategy. It is essential that at every level of the business, there is a consensus of ‘Who are we as an organisation? What are our goals? How are we going to achieve them?’. Once this clear messaging has been delivered at all levels of the business, it becomes more resilient to the unpredictable impacts of external factors, namely the continuing socioeconomic turbulence we are facing.
The key to achieving and delivering alignment within your business is effective and consistent communication. This must be repeatedly reinforced, by ensuring that every team in the business, and every individual within those teams, is always clear on its overall strategy. To keep your staff engaged with this messaging, creating a warm and friendly environment is crucial. A productive office ecosystem in which everyone is engaged creates to a rewarding and collaborative work experience.
Best Moments/Key Quotes
“As human beings, to get the best out of each other, we need to be a feeling that we are cared about, and we contribute, and we get regular feedback, good, bad and indifferent… If we really want to have that ecosystem of wellbeing and looking after each other, and really having a sort of a movement and working towards a goal, that's the type of effective leadership or management we need and that's not the role, obviously, of the CEO. They’re too far removed, but certainly, they should have an understanding with their senior or executive leadership team of what's going on with them rather than everything being transactional.”
“It fundamentally comes down to, ‘How do we have better conversations and create clarity in our messages?’ because that creates alignment.”
“Who are we as an organisation, as a team, what are we trying to achieve? And how do we go about our business? How do we behave and perform? When you get that aligned, you get congruence, and then when you're communicating those marketing messages, those key sales messages or even in the interviews, you're going to attract the right type of talent, and then all of a sudden, then you're going to have people making the right decision to come with you.”
Resources
Pro-Noctis - https://www.pro-noctis.com/
About the Guest
Phil Kelly is the Managing Director of Pro Noctis, a training and consultancy business which helps organisations to align their strategies and streamline day-to-day decision-making. He was previously a professional footballer, before working for 11 years in the RAF as a trainer and educator.
Phil’s LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/phil-kelly-pro-noctis/
About the Host
Sarah Myerscough is the Sales and Marketing Director of Boston Tullis Group. The founder of The Insurance Brokers Podcast, she brings a wealth of experience and a fresh perspective on communication in the insurance sector. Boston Tullis works with insurance professionals to build effective communication both internally and externally through podcasting, event reporting, videography, and internal communications facilitation.
Website: https://bostontullis.co.uk/
Evaluation Link: https://s.bostontullis.co.uk/s/podcastevaluation